Podcast Ep 316 - What Overwhelm Really Is
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In this new episode of the Flourish Academy Podcast, host Heather Lahtinen talks about the concept of overwhelm that many photographers experience and how it affects our ability to achieve our goals and enjoy life. She shares actionable insights and mindset shifts to help photographers navigate their busy schedules and transform their feelings of overwhelm into a source of empowerment.
This podcast is packed with real-life examples, thought-provoking questions, and actionable tips that will help you transform your relationship with overwhelm. Discover how to reframe your thoughts, embrace your current season, and set yourself up for future success.
Show Notes:
- The physical and emotional sensations associated with overwhelm and why we resist them.
- How resisting reality creates misery and repels opportunities.
- Techniques to identify and describe the physical sensations of overwhelm.
- Shifting from "I can't do this" to "I will figure this out" by recognizing our capabilities.
- Thoughts and encouragement to embrace and process feelings of overwhelm.
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TRANSCRIPT
You're listening to the Flourish Academy podcast, and today we are talking about overwhelm. My name is Heather Lahtinen, and I'm a photographer, educator, and entrepreneur, and I founded the Flourish Academy as a resource for photographers of all levels.
We want to help you pursue your passion on your own terms because we believe there is room for everyone. In this podcast, we focus on creating breakthroughs with your mindset to discover the things that are really holding you back in business and life.
I was talking with a friend earlier this week about overwhelm and we came up with some great ideas on how to approach this very common feeling. I'm just curious, how often do you feel overwhelmed?
Like, is it a several times a week or maybe a couple of times in the past month? I wanted to approach this a little differently today because I want to help my photographer friends work through their very specific issues around overwhelm.
So I actually invited our Elevate Group to this recording. They're here with me on Zoom today so that we can work through this together. My goal is to help photographers make more money and I just don't think we can do that from a place of overwhelm.
So if you are here with me on the call today, I want you to think about the last time you felt overwhelmed. What specifically were you thinking that was driving that emotion?
I would love it if you could please share that in the chat. While I work through a few concepts, and then I'll come back to your thoughts. So really what I'm looking for is like one sentence.
Because my guess is it's probably a lot of sentences that are making you feel overwhelmed. But if you could break them down into just like one sentence, and by the way you can post several times,
and I want to come back to those after we talk through this a little bit, we often think that we feel overwhelmed because of a set of circumstances. So that I was chatting with my friend recently.
She explained to me that her calendar was packed and she has a full -time job and a photography business. And as she was describing her job, there was no doubt at all that she is very busy and her schedule is very full.
If the overwhelm is coming from the busy schedule, then there's nothing we can do, especially if it's dictated by a corporate job or by other responsibilities,
which means it's happening to us and we are powerless. When we feel powerless, it makes perfect sense that we would feel overwhelmed.
And then we think about all the things that we want to do, but can't do because of this crazy schedule, or again, other priorities, and then we feel frustrated and we spiral even more out of control,
which guess what, perpetuates the overwhelm. But if we look at this in terms of the model, then we know that overwhelm is a feeling and feelings do not come from circumstances like calendars.
They come from our thoughts. We are feeling overwhelmed because we are thinking something about that calendar. I'd like you to think about your thoughts.
I would like you to think about what is that thought that you're having about the calendar that is causing you to feel overwhelmed. And it might be something like, oh my gosh,
I'm just getting further and further behind. And how does that feel when you think that feels overwhelming, doesn't it? I'm just getting further and further behind and then you spiral. But when you say that, I just want to ask you like,
how? How are you getting further and further behind and according to whom? Like what imaginary scale are you measuring this against? Because you could choose to say,
I'm really excited to work on my photography, but I'm in this temporary season, this busy season, that prevents me from doing everything I want to do. And I can't wait until I can do more.
And thankfully, all seasons are temporary. So you could think when you look at the calendar, you could think, oh, this is great. I'm exactly where I need to be. And you could ask yourself,
how is this busy season setting me up for a better photography business in the next season. Because if you think I'm getting further and further behind,
you will feel awful and you will feel overwhelmed. But if you think this is setting me up for success in my business, you will feel hopeful and excited.
And the good news is that you can pick either one of these thoughts to think. One of them is going to be automatic and it's always going to be the negative one. But if you can become aware and catch it,
then you can choose a better thought. And I have this other like idea around overwhelm, is that oftentimes we think some version of I should be able to do more.
But whenever you use this word should. You are arguing with reality. We've talked about this in the past. Byron Katie always says, "When you argue with reality,
you lose, but only a hundred percent of the time." Because the reality in this season might be that you can't get more done because you have a job or kids or whatever.
But you're mad about it because you should be able to do more. So you just continue to punch yourself in the face every single day and then wonder why it hurts.
This is not a scheduling problem. This is a resistance problem. We multiply our suffering when we resist reality.
We are so overwhelmed and then we get mad that we are overwhelmed because we don't want to be, which leads to this tension between what is, which is reality, and what we wish it were.
Did you ever consider that what might be causing the overwhelm is the resistance to overwhelm? And it can be caused by thinking and rethinking about everything that you have to do or learn or whatever the case may be the repetitive thoughts are exhausting.
And guess what that leads to? Repetitive exhausting thoughts, you'll never guess. It's overwhelm. The problem is not overwhelm. It's that you are resisting feeling overwhelmed.
You don't wanna feel it. Because if you were willing to feel overwhelmed, then it wouldn't be a problem. It's like, are you willing to feel happy? Of course you are.
So it's not a problem. If you were willing to feel overwhelmed, then there would be no issue here. We have nothing to talk about. It would not be a problem. But you resist it. You don't want to feel it,
but you're feeling it, and then you get mad that you're feeling it, and then you're frustrated, and you are caught in this spiral of your own thoughts. If you were just willing to feel the overwhelm.
Like, hey, man, yeah, I'm busy. It would not be a problem. I was teaching a photography class recently at our local college. And one of the students indicated, like, she's just learning her camera.
It's brand new to her. She's a DSLR. And she was like, I am so frustrated with this. I don't understand any of it. She used to shoot film. So if you remember, this was a 35 millimeter camera with a button.
And now she has this very complex computer in her hands and she's like, oh my gosh, I'm just so frustrated. The reason I haven't learned it is because when I get frustrated, I just give up, I put it back in the box and I walk away.
I said, oh, that's so interesting. But what if feeling frustrated wasn't a problem? What's wrong with feeling frustrated? Why did you have to walk away from it?
What if you could just feel it? The problem is not frustration. The problem is she didn't want to feel it. So she thinks she shouldn't need to feel it or have to feel it.
So she just shuts down and she tried to escape the feeling by putting the camera back in the box and walking away. And I said, so this was,
we were at, we were in between our sessions at lunch. And I said to her, I want you to really think about this. What if feeling frustrated was not something to be avoided or walk away from or get rid of?
What if frustration wasn't something you needed to get rid of? And I think it kind of blew her mind, or she was shut down from frustration, I don't know, because she was looking at me like,
I had never considered that. What if, what if I could just feel the frustration? And I said, "Listen, that doesn't mean you don't need a break for a minute from your camera to take a breath,
you know, but I don't want you, like, going crazy over trying to learn this camera. But if you're feeling frustrated, what if you just noted, "Oh, I'm feeling frustrated. I don't like this feeling, but it's not something I need to escape from.
I don't need to put the camera down and run away to avoid it. I am willing to feel frustrated." What if you were willing to feel overwhelmed because I really think that when you are in overwhelm you are repelling money Freedom all the options that are available to you all of the good things you're repelling it Not even necessarily because you're in overwhelm because you are resisting it You are resisting reality,
which is a losing game and you are miserable because of it. So my question is, how could you allow overwhelm and not be afraid of it?
Or not shut down or try to just like say, oh my gosh, Heather, I'm so overwhelmed. I can't do anything. I just shut down. My question is why? Well, really, if you think about it,
it's because you don't want to feel overwhelmed. But like, what is that feeling? Could you describe it, the feeling of overwhelm? What does it feel like in your body?
Does it make like your chest tight? Does it give you a headache? Okay, are you telling me you're not able to feel that? 'Cause I think if you thought about it,
you could say, like maybe it's, if anybody's ever done any public speaking and you get nervous before you go on stage or you have to speak or whatever, if you really break that down, it's like, oh, your heart rate speeds up,
maybe you get sweaty, maybe you get a headache again, tightness in your chest, whatever. Those are just like manifestations of that body sensations of the feeling of nervousness or overwhelm.
Sick to your stomach, maybe. You wanna escape, you wanna hide, you wanna run away. My head gets really hot like my head is tingling. It's really hot Well,
what why do why should I resist feeling that? Could Could I not just like take a breath and say oh my head is tingling my head is hot my ears get hot - my ears get hot My face gets a little bit red Why do we feel the need to escape everything and just be super comfortable?
Could you allow the emotion or the sensations in your body not be afraid of it and not try to get away from it? that you're just like This is how I feel and I want you to make a note in your brain of the next time you do feel overwhelmed I want you to ask yourself.
What is the sensation in my body? Get really in tune to what's happening in your body because I think what you'll learn is just describing those sensations will actually help bring it down a notch.
And you can get really curious like, oh, is that it? I hate to feel embarrassed. My face gets red, my ears hot tingly, but what's wrong with having tingly ears?
Does anybody like see that? Is it just a sensation that I have because of what I'm thinking, and how I'm feeling. If we didn't have to run away from the feels,
if we could just get comfortable feeling it, then it wouldn't have any power over us. You would just be like, oh, my schedule is full. That feels overwhelming because I'm thinking I don't know how I'm gonna get it all done,
which yeah, then I feel a little frustrated, which gives me a headache, and then what? Like, okay, So what? You,
you could possibly do it anyway. How could you overcome that sensation and not be afraid of it? And I really think, like,
when I started to think about, okay, but everybody's going to want a how, how do I work through this? My photographer friends are a very strategic bunch. They want all of the tactics.
How could I do this? And the more I thought about it, I was thinking like, what is the antidote? What is the solution to overwhelm? 'Cause it's not pleasant to feel.
Okay, we can feel it, it's not pleasant. But how could I like bring it down, turn back the dial and like, what's the solution to that? And here's what I came up with.
Every time you are in overwhelm, the calendar is capability. The capability to feel the feeling, the capability to handle the challenge,
to move forward. And by telling yourself this, like, for example, if you think there are so many things that need to be done, my calendar is so full, it's very busy.
And I just don't know how I'm going to do it all. It's just so busy. What if, so the answer to that, that's the challenge. If the answer is capability, what if you could say there are so many things that need to be done and I know I'm going to figure it out because it always gets done.
So you don't leave it with the period at the end of the sentence that says I have so much I need to get done, therefore I feel overwhelmed you don't do that. You add the and the second part of the statement is your capability.
Another example is, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to do this, which means you feel overwhelmed and then you feel stuck. Period equals overwhelmed. But if you said, if you answer it with capability and you said,
I don't know what I'm doing, and I have the resources to figure it out, and I can read, I can watch videos, which means I can learn this, which means I can figure it out.
So if you just stay with the initial part of your overwhelm and you're describing it in your one sentence or your one thought and you put that period on the end of it. It's not surprising to me that you would continue to spiral in overwhelm,
but if you answer the statement by adding the word "and" and using a capability after that, like "and I will figure this out," you would feel so much better.
And while furthermore, maybe it doesn't all need to get done, maybe there's a priority issue here. My schedule is too busy and I'm going to prioritize.
And I know how to prioritize. And I'm willing to prioritize. I'm willing to make the brave decisions to choose what gets put on the front burner and what goes on the back burner.
I was talking with my friend about this. I always come up with these crazy metaphors. You know, you just gotta go with it but I said if it's Thanksgiving dinner not everything can be on the front burner right because there's just too much food there are some things that need to go on the back burner.
So I'm gonna get the potatoes ready I'm gonna put them in the pot and I'm gonna put it on the back burner because they need to boil for a while and they'll be fine but if I'm gonna work on the gravy especially the roux have you ever made a roux you've got to watch it like a hawk or it burns and it's done if I'm gonna be stirring that roux constantly and watching it very closely it has to be on the front
burner but I can't put the roux in the potatoes on the front burner so I make a decision and I trust myself with that decision where does the decision need to be made here you want everything on the front burner and then you throw a little toddler fit when it can't happen how about you trust yourself and you make a decision what's on the front burner the roux is potatoes on the back oh the potatoes boiled over.
Okay, turn down the burner. Take it off. But you can't bring the potatoes to the front burner until you're done with the roux. You have to make some decisions. And a lot of you are not willing to make those decisions.
You're not willing to do it. You think you should be able to get it all done. You think that it's all a number one priority. And I just want you to keep this image in your of Thanksgiving and and your cooktop and there are only so many things that can be on the front and sometimes there are things in the back and sometimes you have to pivot and you have to change those things.
Okay, what I would like to do next is go through some of these thoughts that were shared with our Elevate members in the chat and then as I go through these I'm gonna I'm gonna help you turn this around and add the statement And then what I'd like to do is bring a few of you on for some coaching.
If you're still hung up on, yeah, but, you know, you haven't seen my schedule, Heather. You don't know how much I have to do. OK, so I have too much to do and not enough time.
Yeah, we've covered that one, which is if you're thinking, and it's most of us, I have too much to do and there's not enough time and I'm figuring it out. Clients are going to notice my overwhelm and judge me and I'm figuring it out and maybe they're not noticing.
I mean, I want you to add a statement after that that gives you capability. So that was Monica. She said, "Clients are going to notice my overwhelm and judge me." And what's the capability answer to that and put it on the back end of that and what?
And I'm inspiring them by showing them what's possible as an entrepreneur. Carol says, "I'll never get it all done." Which,
you know, I would question that statement. Does it all need to be done? And I'll figure it out. Too many choices and options. And I trust myself to narrow them down. That's like the front burner back burner thing is like,
we do have too many options. It reminds me of the... I don't eat cereal, but it reminds me of the cereal aisle. Have you been down the cereal aisle lately? There's approximately 5 ,000 options.
And when I was a kid, it was like Lucky Charms and Cheerios. And there was like nothing else. So there are so many options that were overwhelmed just by what's around us.
And that's a real thing. I mean, that's a circumstance. We have all of these choices, there are a lot of options, you just decide what you, what you want to do and you narrow it down and you trust that.
So again, a question you could ask is, where does a decision need to be made? Juggling a very busy day job and a business and I'm awesome.
So I'm figuring it out because I know how to prioritize of the clutter in in your house yeah and I'm cleaning it up because a clean house is a clean brain. Oh here everyone was replying to how they feel when they're overwhelmed or nervous so it's like chest tightness,
sick to stomach, uneasiness, I want to run away, I want to escape. I want you guys to really try to sit with it next time. The next time something comes up like that I want you to take a deep breath and say to yourself,
"I can feel this. I can process this and I can feel this. I promise you that will lessen the impact." Jessica says, "I've realized that my overwhelm often comes from my own expectations that I've set.
Yes, and I can or should do it all." Again, when you use the word "should," it is usually because you are resisting reality. How can I accept reality and work my way towards whatever my goal is?
Ashley says I felt these symptoms so much that they are expected. My therapist says they are body noise. Nothing more helps me to avoid the sensations or situations that bring them on.
I like that body noise. It's like my body is responding to my thoughts. Oh, that's so interesting. I didn't realize I was so powerful. Oh, okay, if I'm that powerful, could I change my thought?
Because in between a busy calendar and the feeling of overwhelm is a thought. You have a thought about it, it causes a feeling. Notice what that thought is,
and then can you shift it? Gwen says I'm usually the cause of my own overwhelm and sometimes I feel it makes me more productive because I figure out how to make it all work.
If that's true then it's not a problem. It's actually helping you because maybe you don't like all the things you have to do so you're like let's go. Have you ever noticed that sometimes the busier you are the more productive or efficient you become?
When I photographed 30 weddings per year man I was on it. Those weddings were edited and out the door like a well oiled machine. When I was between 10 and 15 weddings a year,
I don't want to say I, you know, put my feet up and took a break, but I certainly took my foot off the gas. And then it was taking longer for me to do things. I was not as efficient with 10 weddings as I was with 30.
And the truth is it might not always all get done. Jessica got overwhelmed not knowing what Rue was and she just had to Google it. Yeah, it's the start of the gravy and if you burn it,
you're done. You have to watch it really closely. Ashley says, "I'm so comfortable being comfortable that being uncomfortable makes me not want to be uncomfortable." I love that and I'm spoiled about it.
Yeah, we all want to be sitting in 72 degrees with our feet up, like totally comfort zone. But that's not life. And what if you got really good at feeling uncomfortable feelings?
My coach always says, there's nothing that can stop her because she's willing to feel anything. And we're not. We don't want to feel overwhelmed. We don't want to feel discomfort.
So we avoid it. We put the camera down. We don't work on our marketing. We don't make offers. We, you know, what we do as photographers, we go edit photos because editing photos is easy.
We all know how to do it and it makes us, it gives us this false sense of productivity because something's getting done. But really, you're avoiding something that's more difficult.
Oh, animals. Yeah. Animals definitely react to our nervousness. Okay, I'd like to coach someone or a few of you around this topic.
So if you're able to talk, I'd love for you to raise your Zoom hand and let me know how you're feeling about overwhelm and let me help you maybe reframe or shift your thinking because I really believe this is all within your power to change this,
which is actually great news, because if we think that overwhelm is coming from your calendar, we are mostly powerless, especially if you have responsibilities outside of like the clients that you book,
meaning you have a full -time job or you have children or responsibility or something else like that. How can I help you,
Karla? Well, the overwhelm I've been feeling the last couple of days is around grading products and deciding how I want to price them out based on certain criteria,
for example, in selecting framed products. Do I want to group my frames based on prices of just the framing and then break it down into maybe like two separate groups.
Same thing with albums. Do I base my albums like on the amount of images that are going in or by the amount of spreads? And how do you adjust the amount for the amount of spreads?
Do you put more on in a page and charge more based on the amount of images so yeah there's a lot of questions on how to kind of move all the moving parts on it.
Okay that's so funny you just answered my first question which is it sounds like there are a lot of questions there are a lot of options that you so whenever we have a lot of options that can lead to overwhelm because you're thinking what so there's all these options in the circumstance line you have all these choices you're feeling overwhelmed.
What's the general thought here? Um, am I going to price it wrong if I selected the wrong way? I might price this wrong. If I do something. Yeah.
Okay. When you feel like you might do something wrong, you feel overwhelmed. Right. What if there was no right or wrong? That would be great. So what makes us think that there's like a right or wrong like way to,
like way to price this or how to choose it or like the albums you said, do I do it based on number of images, pages, what does that look like? - For me, it's probably being that perfectionist.
So I gotta try to walk away from that and just make a choice and go with it. - Well, yeah, the question is, where does the decision need to be made here and how can you make it?
Oh, I mentioned just in trying to come up with maybe a basic way of looking at the process for each particular product and then just simplifying it the best I can.
And then just going with it and testing it out. There you go. That's exactly what I was going to say. You can try something, make an educated guess, try it out and then test it and see if it works.
My only criteria, because I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do anything in business. My only criteria is, is this simple enough that I understand it,
I believe it, and I can therefore articulate it clearly to my clients? Okay. Yeah. Does that help? Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah.
So, whenever you feel overwhelmed for something like this, ask yourself, Am I making this an either /or? Am I thinking that there's a right way? No, there's not. So how can I make a decision?
Where does the decision need to be made and how can I make that decision? Those are just good questions to ask yourself. Okay. Yeah, I really think simplifying is a big thing for me because the more I go down the overwhelm rabbit hole,
the more specific I get and I'm like picking every little choice and putting it in your chart. And so yeah, that's what,
and so I increased the overwhelm on myself when I do that. So I think the simplification is a big part of getting out of it. - And have you ever considered like how overwhelm is protecting you?
Like what, what are you gaining? What's the benefit of you staying in Oh, you're a failing. Yeah. Well,
then it doesn't have to get done. Right. It's like, if I can't figure this out and I can't get it done, I don't have to put myself out there and possibly be rejected. So it's keeping you safe.
Right. Overwhelm serves a purpose to all of us. It stops us from taking action and therefore keeps us safe. So it's like, it's like trying to protect us as your brain trying to protect you.
You just have to ask yourself what's more important, me being protected and safe or me making progress? Yeah, I got to keep a progress in mind. Exactly, exactly right.
Like I want progress more than I want my brain to keep me safe and I'm willing to feel whatever the next feeling is. This is all just a like big avoidance of feelings.
I want to avoid feeling overwhelmed now. I want to avoid feeling rejected later. So the best thing to do is just spin in this and not move forward. - Yeah,
that makes a lot of sense because I've been experiencing that today where I got to the point where I thought, I got to move forward with this. I can't stay stuck here. - No,
it doesn't feel good, right? - No, it doesn't. - No, progress feels better than staying stuck, even though progress can be scary because it means something new is on the horizon.
It's just very exciting to know that you can push yourself through these feelings of overwhelm and do it anyway. Okay,
sounds good. Yeah, gives you the power. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Monica, what do you got? Okay, so I have been feeling overwhelmed that I have missed a self -imposed deadline.
And I'm noticing that it is like affecting everything in my business. Like I don't even want to like market anything until I have my first book project done. So I want to like publish and done because I feel guilty that people are waiting even though they don't really know that they're waiting.
And I just feel bad and I'm tired of feeling bad about it about this like self -imposed deadline that I've put on myself. So can you help me not feel bad?
Yeah, the first thing I want to say is, OK, just stop feeling bad. Just make a decision. I'm not going to feel bad, but OK, that's easier said than done. OK, so if we were to look at your model in the circumstance line is you set a deadline of give me a date.
You can even make it up. What's the date? It was it was spring, so it's like May. OK, - That's what I wanted my book published. - But you didn't even set a real date. You set this very vague.
- Okay, interesting. - Spring time. And I'm like, I only have like three weeks left of spring. - Okay, spring, whatever. Okay, that means different things in different parts of the country. So it's interesting right out of the gate that you didn't even set a real date.
- No. - Okay, 'cause you, which tells me you were giving yourself a way out. - Mm -hmm. - Okay. - Okay, let's put that on the shelf for now. That's another model, okay. So you sat this date and you feel bad because what's the thought that's driving that feeling?
- I feel bad that people are excited for this book and they're waiting for it and they're waiting on me and I don't like people waiting on me. Like I like to be quick and efficient.
And I feel like it's good customer service, right, to have some some quickness. So I'm over here. I'm like, this looks so bad right now. But also, is it bad? It's just a fundraiser.
Like, it's not like, yeah, do they know? Did you had you told them like to expect something in a certain timeframe? I told them to expect the launch date for the book to be in spring,
um, which technically we're, we're still in spring spring. Okay, how many of them do you think are sitting around waiting for this email to come out about your book project? You know,
I know I have one because I had one email me last night and I was like, I wrote them back like, we're working on it. We're so excited. Um, why do you think they emailed you?
Because I'm thinking about it so much. And also I launched my next book project as well. So I think they may have saw that that I'm working on another project because I didn't want to keep holding myself back,
right? So I was like, I need to move on with my marketing. But I genuinely feel I am like creating this mind drama by thinking about it so much that you know how it goes.
Yeah. Yeah. - Yeah, what's the problem here? - The problem is my thoughts. I need to reframe that this is a new project for me and this is something that I am working through.
It's a creative process that's going to take time and it will be done and when it is done, it's gonna be amazing, right? Because like we spent so much time on it, it's gonna be perfect. - What if you're mislabeling your reaction,
meaning what if you're just really excited for this and you're looking forward to it? And it's not that you feel bad that it hasn't happened yet. It's that you're excited that it's coming.
- Yes, I like that so much better. - Well, doesn't it feel better? - It feels so much better. - Yeah, and you even yourself. You, you, this is an imaginary timeline that you made up.
It is. Yeah. So what if you're like, okay, I'm really excited for this and I'm looking forward to it. So maybe that, maybe you're blurring that line between anxious and excitement.
Yes. Oh yeah. Definitely. And what if somebody emailed you because they're also excited about it? Yes. That is a good way don't look at it.
I'm not in trouble. I am. But you know what's funny about that email is you can take that one of two ways. You get an email and you can feel like garbage and think,
oh my gosh, see, everybody's waiting for me. This is awful. That email, like as neutral as it is, can reaffirm whatever it is you're thinking because of cognitive bias.
So if you're thinking everybody's waiting, I'm letting them down then getting an email like that is really triggering. Yes, but if you are excited and looking forward to it and someone emails you,
you would be like double excited because you might be thinking, "Oh my gosh, my people are so excited too and we're so looking forward to this is so fun." Yeah, that's exactly it.
Me also, same email. Same email. But depending on what what angle you're coming from, you know, we see what we think. Yes, that is such a good point.
I do that so often where like my mind reads negatively a lot of times. So I have to pause and reframe the question or reread the email with that positive mindset.
Yeah, try reading it again with a different thought, one that makes you feel good. And I think it could shift things for you. And the beauty in all of this is you get to decide what you want to think.
Yes. So you get to decide how to receive that email. And this is pretty straightforward, because the email was probably just excitement or even neutrality. This becomes like next level challenging if you get an email that is maybe unkind.
Yeah. We'll talk about that in another call. Who has to do another call on that? OK, great. Thank you so much. I hope that you enjoyed this call and that you found it useful.
I'll see you in the next episode.